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Непрочетено мнение от Бобсъна » 22 дек 2013, 04:18



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Минимум последна зима (°C): -5.8 (March 1, 2018)
Любимо растение: Кокосова палма, Cocos nucifera
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Непрочетено мнение от Kiril Donov » 22 дек 2013, 09:29

Following the link above, you will see how they were looking in the end of 2012, after the freezing February 2012.


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Непрочетено мнение от Ovar » 23 дек 2013, 02:24

Really impressive!
<bravo>

But I do not understand in Plovdiv was -27°C and grow here very much and beautiful palm trees. So strong frosts are not here in the Czech Republic!

Kiril, please tell me, this Trachycarpus that grow at the Historical Museum in Plovdiv, these are the mother plants Trachycarpus "bulgaria"? These are the ones from which you took the seeds?
You wrote many of to the knowledge of the Trachycarpus "Plovdiv", but google translator is very confused and I do not see therefore the exact origin of Trachycarpus Bulgaria. I do not mean to be nosy, but I am interested. These things do not happen in the Czech Republic. <yes>


Winter minimum/ Snow max
2010/11: -16,3°C - 30 cm
2011/12: -20,3°C - 13 cm
2012/13: -11,6°C - 24 cm
2013/14: -9,1°C - 9 cm
2014/15: -13,9°C - 9 cm
2015/16: -16,2°C - 9 cm
2016/17: -17,7°C - 21 cm
Mrchojedy, 450 m.n.m, Czech republic

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USDA zone: 7b
Абсолютна минимална t° (°C): -15.2 since 1995
Минимум последна зима (°C): -5.8 (March 1, 2018)
Любимо растение: Кокосова палма, Cocos nucifera
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Непрочетено мнение от Kiril Donov » 23 дек 2013, 10:41

It was -27,5°C in the city suburbs, where the meteostation is located. Well, if I remember right, this data was given to me by the Agricultural university, meteorological department. Their meteo station is not that far from the city center, I don't think, that they may ever get a difference bigger than 2-3 degrees C.
Unfortunately I have no pictures of the palms from those years. During that time I was a student, quite busy chasing girls ... <he-he>


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Непрочетено мнение от Ovar » 23 дек 2013, 18:04

Ok,

I do not want photos. Just wondering, from which palm you took seeds, which later changed its name to Trachycarpus "bulgaria". These are the palm trees at the historic museum? Thanks


Winter minimum/ Snow max
2010/11: -16,3°C - 30 cm
2011/12: -20,3°C - 13 cm
2012/13: -11,6°C - 24 cm
2013/14: -9,1°C - 9 cm
2014/15: -13,9°C - 9 cm
2015/16: -16,2°C - 9 cm
2016/17: -17,7°C - 21 cm
Mrchojedy, 450 m.n.m, Czech republic

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Engineer-agronomist, Master in Tropical and Subtropical Agriculture (Инженер-агроном, Магистър по Тропично и Субтропично Земеделие), founder of Nursery Palm Center - Plovdiv, Bulgaria
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USDA zone: 7b
Абсолютна минимална t° (°C): -15.2 since 1995
Минимум последна зима (°C): -5.8 (March 1, 2018)
Любимо растение: Кокосова палма, Cocos nucifera
Любим плод: Durian - The King of all fruits
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Непрочетено мнение от Kiril Donov » 23 дек 2013, 20:32

No. There were other people who used the seeds from the museum and planted them on the Black sea coast. After several years (9-10) they ended up with a flowering female palm. There was another palm in a private garden, a male one, brought from Sochy, Russia. So they used the pollen from this male palm to pollinate the female palm from the museum. The resulted generation was already looking different, much more like their male parrent from Sochy. These are what I called Trachycarpus "Bulgaria."


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Непрочетено мнение от Ovar » 24 дек 2013, 00:33

Thanks for useful information! <crazy fan>


Winter minimum/ Snow max
2010/11: -16,3°C - 30 cm
2011/12: -20,3°C - 13 cm
2012/13: -11,6°C - 24 cm
2013/14: -9,1°C - 9 cm
2014/15: -13,9°C - 9 cm
2015/16: -16,2°C - 9 cm
2016/17: -17,7°C - 21 cm
Mrchojedy, 450 m.n.m, Czech republic

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Непрочетено мнение от Ovar » 27 дек 2013, 00:04

So, here are my Trachycarpus "bulgaria". Probably from you!

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Winter minimum/ Snow max
2010/11: -16,3°C - 30 cm
2011/12: -20,3°C - 13 cm
2012/13: -11,6°C - 24 cm
2013/14: -9,1°C - 9 cm
2014/15: -13,9°C - 9 cm
2015/16: -16,2°C - 9 cm
2016/17: -17,7°C - 21 cm
Mrchojedy, 450 m.n.m, Czech republic

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Непрочетено мнение от Ovar » 07 мар 2014, 19:09

Hi,
I planted a Trachycarpus "bulgaria", the weather is beautiful <coffee> .

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Kiril You can write me your email? I wrote to the email message, which is on your site, but probably is not working <please> .


Winter minimum/ Snow max
2010/11: -16,3°C - 30 cm
2011/12: -20,3°C - 13 cm
2012/13: -11,6°C - 24 cm
2013/14: -9,1°C - 9 cm
2014/15: -13,9°C - 9 cm
2015/16: -16,2°C - 9 cm
2016/17: -17,7°C - 21 cm
Mrchojedy, 450 m.n.m, Czech republic

Потребителски аватар
Kiril Donov
Engineer-agronomist, Master in Tropical and Subtropical Agriculture (Инженер-агроном, Магистър по Тропично и Субтропично Земеделие), founder of Nursery Palm Center - Plovdiv, Bulgaria
Мнения: 11512
Регистриран: 09 авг 2009, 12:48
Местоположение: Асеновград (над инверсиите), Assenovgrad (above inversions!)
Надморска височина (m): 395
USDA zone: 7b
Абсолютна минимална t° (°C): -15.2 since 1995
Минимум последна зима (°C): -5.8 (March 1, 2018)
Любимо растение: Кокосова палма, Cocos nucifera
Любим плод: Durian - The King of all fruits
Любим климат: Екваториален (Humid Equatorial)
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Непрочетено мнение от Kiril Donov » 10 мар 2014, 13:17

Ovar написа:... This site shows -15.4 C as minimum in the winter 1985/1986 ...

I was not in Plovdiv during that time (1985), so I can't say anything about it. Perharps someone else could?

But I was in Plovdiv in 1993 and I was a witness, when the standart meteo station of the Agricultural university recorded -27 degrees Celsius. It was on Jan 6th. This site shows -19.4 as low for that day.
In December 2001 I recorded -21.5 myself, the data on the site shows -19.0 only.
For February 2012 it shows -21 and it is pretty much what I've recorded at the nursery.

My conclusion is, that the old data on this site is not correct.
They use the data from the airport, which is just next to our nursery. The temperatures are always the same.


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Непрочетено мнение от Ovar » 10 мар 2014, 13:28

Thank you, yes I was wrong (stupid translator). <teaching2>

Unfortunately, I need my data accurately documented temperature and it offers just about Plovdiv airport. ..

And could you here please write me your email?


Winter minimum/ Snow max
2010/11: -16,3°C - 30 cm
2011/12: -20,3°C - 13 cm
2012/13: -11,6°C - 24 cm
2013/14: -9,1°C - 9 cm
2014/15: -13,9°C - 9 cm
2015/16: -16,2°C - 9 cm
2016/17: -17,7°C - 21 cm
Mrchojedy, 450 m.n.m, Czech republic

Потребителски аватар
Kiril Donov
Engineer-agronomist, Master in Tropical and Subtropical Agriculture (Инженер-агроном, Магистър по Тропично и Субтропично Земеделие), founder of Nursery Palm Center - Plovdiv, Bulgaria
Мнения: 11512
Регистриран: 09 авг 2009, 12:48
Местоположение: Асеновград (над инверсиите), Assenovgrad (above inversions!)
Надморска височина (m): 395
USDA zone: 7b
Абсолютна минимална t° (°C): -15.2 since 1995
Минимум последна зима (°C): -5.8 (March 1, 2018)
Любимо растение: Кокосова палма, Cocos nucifera
Любим плод: Durian - The King of all fruits
Любим климат: Екваториален (Humid Equatorial)
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Непрочетено мнение от Kiril Donov » 10 мар 2014, 13:46

Don't worry about my email. I was very busy in the last days and tons of emails are waiting for my reply. I hope to reply to yours by the end of today.


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Непрочетено мнение от Ovar » 11 мар 2014, 23:29

Both yesterday and today I came no email <crying> .

Kiril, I know you have a lot of work, but I want to do business with you <yes> .


Winter minimum/ Snow max
2010/11: -16,3°C - 30 cm
2011/12: -20,3°C - 13 cm
2012/13: -11,6°C - 24 cm
2013/14: -9,1°C - 9 cm
2014/15: -13,9°C - 9 cm
2015/16: -16,2°C - 9 cm
2016/17: -17,7°C - 21 cm
Mrchojedy, 450 m.n.m, Czech republic

Потребителски аватар
Kiril Donov
Engineer-agronomist, Master in Tropical and Subtropical Agriculture (Инженер-агроном, Магистър по Тропично и Субтропично Земеделие), founder of Nursery Palm Center - Plovdiv, Bulgaria
Мнения: 11512
Регистриран: 09 авг 2009, 12:48
Местоположение: Асеновград (над инверсиите), Assenovgrad (above inversions!)
Надморска височина (m): 395
USDA zone: 7b
Абсолютна минимална t° (°C): -15.2 since 1995
Минимум последна зима (°C): -5.8 (March 1, 2018)
Любимо растение: Кокосова палма, Cocos nucifera
Любим плод: Durian - The King of all fruits
Любим климат: Екваториален (Humid Equatorial)
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Непрочетено мнение от Kiril Donov » 12 мар 2014, 01:35

I tried to send you an email, but it was returned back to me. I will try again now.

This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.

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Ovar.M2@seznam.cz
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